● The part nobody pitches

Risk, default & whose neck is on the line

The Stack Method makes one quiet change that flips the seller's risk: in a normal seller-carry the seller is the bank (a first lien). Here, a DSCR lender becomes the bank and the seller is demoted to subordinated equity. This page walks the default math honestly — and answers the questions you're right to be asking.

A house balanced on a risk scale between a storm and a shield

The one change that drives all the risk

Same house, same price — but the seller's position in the capital stack moves down.

In a plain seller-carry, the seller holds a note secured by a first-position mortgage / deed of trust. They are the senior creditor — the bank. If the buyer stops paying, the seller forecloses and takes the house back, clear of junior claims, and keeps the down payment.

In the Stack Method, the buyer's DSCR loan (or debt-fund loan) sits in first position at roughly 70% of value. The seller's remaining balance is converted into a capital contribution — equity (a ~5% membership interest) in the LLC, not a lien. Equity is junior to all debt. The seller is no longer the bank; they're behind the bank.

Who gets paid first in a foreclosure

The "waterfall" — money flows top to bottom. Whatever runs out, runs out before it reaches the bottom tiers. Example: a $200,000 house.

Regular seller-carry

1 · Seller's first-lien note — ~$160kSenior. Forecloses and takes the house back, clear.
2 · Buyer's equityWiped first in a default; seller is protected above it.

Seller outcome on default: recovers the property, keeps the down payment. In control.

Stack Method

1 · DSCR / debt-fund loan — ~$140kSenior. The lender is now "the bank." Paid first.
2 · Your assignment fee — ~$20kTaken at closing. You've already exited.
3 · LLC equity — seller's ~$120k claim lives hereJunior to the senior loan. Only ~$60k of equity exists behind $140k of debt.

Seller outcome on default: keeps the cash already received, but the carried balance is exposed — see below.

Two ways a deal goes bad

Run the same $200k deal through the two realistic default paths. The seller already received ~$80k cash down (that money is theirs and safe). What's at risk is the carried ~$120k.

Scenario A — the buyer stops paying the seller

i.e. the LLC misses the seller's obligated payments, but the senior loan is still current.

Regular seller-carry

Seller is first lien

Seller holding the house with a first-lien shield
  • Seller forecloses on the first lien.
  • Takes the $200k house back free and clear.
  • Keeps the down payment already received.
  • Net: whole, often better off. Seller is in control.

Stack Method

Seller is subordinated equity

A lender pulling the house away as the seller's equity cracks
  • 60-day cure; if uncured, the seller becomes 100% of the LLC — the marketed protection.
  • But the LLC still owes the ~$140k senior loan. The seller inherits that mortgage.
  • They now own a $200k house with $140k debt = ~$60k net equity — against a $120k claim.
  • They must service or refinance $140k or the lender forecloses. They became a borrower.
The catch with the "100% equity" protection: becoming 100% owner of the LLC only hands the seller whatever is left after the senior lender. With a $140k loan on a $200k house, that's ~$60k — roughly half of the $120k they were owed, and now they're the one carrying the loan.

Scenario B — the buyer defaults on the senior DSCR loan

The dangerous one. This is what your instinct is pointing at.

Regular seller-carry

There is no lender ahead of the seller

  • There is no senior loan — the seller was the financing.
  • Nothing can foreclose ahead of them.
  • The only foreclosure is the seller's own. They cannot be wiped out by a third party.

Stack Method

Senior lender forecloses

  • The DSCR lender forecloses to recover its ~$140k.
  • Foreclosure extinguishes all junior equity — including the seller's. The "100% LLC" clause is worthless once the property is gone.
  • Seller keeps the ~$80k cash already received but loses the entire ~$120k carried balance and the property.
  • They had no control — a buyer they didn't choose triggered it.
Direct answer to "do they lose the property plus the down payment?" The cash down they already pocketed is safe — foreclosure can't claw it back. But they can lose the entire carried balance (the ~$120k) and any equity, because they sit behind the senior lender. In a first-lien seller-carry, that balance is protected by the lien. That is the real, material increase in risk.

So — is it more risky for the seller?

Honest answer: yes, on the carried portion

On the money the seller doesn't take as cash at closing, this is meaningfully riskier than a first-lien seller-carry, because that money is now subordinated equity behind a senior lender instead of a secured first lien. Three things offset it — none of them eliminate it:

Cash taken at close
Low risk

Already in the seller's bank account — safe regardless of what happens next. A bigger down payment moves more of the price into this safe bucket.

Carried balance (with cushion)
Medium

If the senior loan is conservative (real equity cushion) and the property genuinely cash flows, the 100%-LLC clause can actually return value in a payment default.

Carried balance (thin/aggressive LTV)
High

High senior LTV, no cushion, a non-paying buyer, or a senior-loan default can wipe the entire carried balance. The seller had no control over the trigger.

Is it predatory?

A forked road: one fair and transparent, one with a hidden trap
Same structure, two very different deals — disclosure decides which.

Not inherently — but it has real predatory failure modes, and whether a given deal crosses the line comes down almost entirely to disclosure, cushion, and the buyer's integrity. The structure itself is legal and can be genuinely win-win. It becomes predatory when the seller doesn't understand what they actually traded.

Fair when…

  • The seller is told in writing they're moving from a first lien to subordinated equity, and what that means in a default.
  • The senior loan is conservative LTV — a real equity cushion sits behind it.
  • The property genuinely cash flows, so debt service is covered.
  • The seller has independent legal + CPA review before signing.
  • The end buyer is vetted and on the hook (track record, guaranty).
  • A meaningful cash down moves real money into the safe bucket.

Predatory when…

  • The seller believes they're "still the bank" and never learns they gave up the first lien.
  • The "5% equity" is sold as protection — it isn't; it's a nominal slice of a $120k contribution.
  • High LTV with no cushion; one bad month wipes the seller.
  • The property doesn't really cash flow and was underwritten optimistically.
  • The buyer strips the cash-out at close and lets it default.
  • The seller is rushed, no independent advice, "just sign here."
Plain-spoken take: the honest pitch isn't "you stay protected like a bank." It's: "you'll get a larger cash down now, and the rest rides as equity in the LLC — which is junior to the loan, so here's exactly what happens if it goes sideways." If a deal can't survive being explained that way, it shouldn't be done.

The risk you're actually worried about: assigning & the buyer's integrity

You sign the initial purchase agreement, then assign to an end buyer. Two real exposures live here.

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Locking up a property you can't close

When you put a seller's home under contract intending to assign it, you've tied it up. If you can't find an end buyer or can't perform, you've taken the property off the market, dashed the seller's hopes, and possibly cost them a real buyer — the exact "I'm worried I'll just lock up their property" fear. That alone can be a harm even if no money changes hands.

A house tied up under a contract ribbon with a ticking clock
Protect the seller: realistic timelines, a feasibility/inspection period, and a clean release if you can't deliver. Don't sign what you have no line of sight to close.
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Assigning to a buyer who isn't integrous

Here's the structural problem: the seller's safety depends entirely on the end buyer — keeping the property cash-flowing, servicing the senior loan, and honoring the carried obligation. You vetted the deal and built the trust, then you take your assignment fee and exit. If the assignee strips the cash-out at close, under-maintains, or lets the senior loan default, the seller is wiped (Scenario B) — and they're stuck with a counterparty they never chose.

  • You introduced the risk. The seller relied on your pitch; the bad actor is your assignee.
  • Reputational + legal exposure falls partly on you (misrepresentation, if the seller relied on what you said).
  • Misaligned incentives: a fee-and-flee assignor profits at close regardless of how the deal ends for the seller.
A magnifying glass and checklist vetting a buyer
Vet hard: proof of funds, track record, references, and ideally a personal guaranty or escrow holdback. Prefer buyers who actually hold the asset over those who just want the cash-out.

How to keep it fair (and protect yourself)

A working checklist — for the seller's sake and your own liability.

Disclose the lien→equity change in writing, plainly.
Keep senior LTV conservative — leave a real equity cushion.
Underwrite on true NOI; only do genuinely cash-flowing deals.
Insist the seller get independent legal + CPA review.
Give the seller a meaningful cash down (safe bucket).
Vet the end buyer: proof of funds, references, track record.
Get a personal guaranty or escrow holdback from the buyer.
Prefer long-term holders over cash-out-and-walk buyers.
Don't lock up a property you can't realistically close.
Use feasibility periods and a clean release clause.
Confirm who services the senior loan and how taxes/insurance are escrowed.
Keep the seller informed after close — don't fee-and-flee.
This is an educational risk analysis, not legal, tax, or investment advice. Default outcomes depend on the exact documents, lien positions, state foreclosure law, and the operating agreement — which can differ from the round-number examples here. Anyone (buyer or seller) should have a qualified real-estate attorney and CPA review the specific deal before signing.